This was especially true in the south. The young couple began a lifetime of ministry and they have been sweethearts and partners in ministry for more than fifty three years. Music played a major role in the life of young Joel Hemphill, the son and grandson of ministers of the Gospel. LaBreeska was part of the famous Goodman family, and when she was nine years old, she sang at the Ryman Auditorium with the Goodmans.
Immediately following their marriage, the happy couple began singing together in their home church and for revivals around the area. Joey was only ten when he joined his Mom and Dad on stage playing drums. Trent followed at age fourteen, playing bass guitar. Candy soon joined in and with her strong soprano, she quickly became a featured voice in the group. The Hemphills were traveling extensively then, and decided to move Nashville, Tennessee, to be more centrally located. LaBreeska was the niece of Howard, Vestal, and Rusty.
The couple was married in June of They were just seventeen years old at the time. By this point, Joel was already serving as an associate pastor. They soon began traveling and singing as evangelists.
The couple signed with Canaan Records in to record as a duo. It will NEVER cease to amaze me at how "defensive" all of us, myself included at times, become in regard to the Bible and it's writings. We desperately want, because of how we've been taught, to be able to "literally" read the Bible as though it was from God's lips to mans ears. The Bible was not written by God. It is actually miraculous in how it all comes together so perfectly, and therein perhaps the reason we often refer to the scripture as "the Word" and we hold it in high esteem.
How can we not? The Bible talks about the "Sacred" We are so compelled that we might say, we MUST hold it in this posture. I'm not taking away anything or discounting or disputing ANY point of scripture I'm merely presenting some fact that we now know, that the writer's couldn't possibly have known, that the Bible was written over years by dozens of different writer's, and I stand amazed and in awe at how with such tremendous fluid and poise it all comes together perfectly.
I hold it in higher regard than any other document known to man, and am sure I will until my dying day. The point of my statement wasn't to demonstrate a Biblical conflict, although there are dozens, nor is it to in ANY way discount the Bible.
Let's face it. But I also choose to be logical and intelligent enough to accept that there are discrepancies and obvious cultural bias that, to me, help demonstrate the REALITY and BEAUTY that the scripture was penned by men with the very best of intentions and pureness of heart.
While fundamentalist on one hand stand on a box and scream "I can't hear you, I won't listen, I can't hear you, I won't listen" Please understand my concern which is this. I've watched Christianity, and the public perception thereof, radically change over my lifetime. I'm 53 years old, and have rarely missed church on Sunday in my entire life. I was saved young and have always been involved on some level in evangelism or at a minimum, church participation. Admittedly I live North of the Mason Dixon now and have for many years, and the general attitude toward being "born again" or even using those words makes most everyone in my world bristle.
Sad, but true. But why is it that a goodly portion of the population in these United States has come to such a low disregard for the church, the Bible, and the teachings thereof? Well, that's a conversation that we could have for days or months, and never reach a unanimous conclusion.
But back to the point I was trying to make. We must stop taking every story as though it were literal. Ah, the problem And once you find ONE instance where something doesn't agree, then you throw away the entire document as invalid. I don't believe the Bible was ever intended to be taken literally, nor to be analyzed in such a literal way. It causes unbelief. It humiliates the churches that do so. Now lastly, for I could discuss this matter without end, a couple of you asked me to site an example as noted in my comments 3 that said we today "know better" in spite of how the apostles saw it.
I did that already, but let me do it again. Just a simple reading of the first four gospels will clearly reveal how they were waiting But of course, it's now 2, years later and, unless it happens before I finish this email, Christ still hasn't returned to them or us. Does this discount the scripture? We don't know the "day nor the hour" I didn't see that coming.
Care to be more specific about what statement denoted such a serious charge? Wes Heresy defined in Wikipedia: Used in this way, the term "heresy" has no purely objective meaning: the category exists only from the point of view of speakers within a group that has previously agreed about what counts as "orthodox".
Any nonconformist view within any field may be perceived as "heretical" by others within that field who are convinced that their view is "orthodox"; in the sciences this extension is made tongue-in-cheek. Heretics usually do not define their own beliefs as heretical. Heresy is a value judgment and the expression of a view from within an established belief system.
What has caused the decline of the populace of the US regarding the Bible, church attendance etc.? That's easy, read II Tim. The Bible shows men as sinners. Most preachers used to preach just that. But that wasn't popular and men mankind didn't want to hear it. Satan has blinded the eyes of many with all kinds of excuses for not going to church too many hypocrites or reading the Bible it contains errors.
No it doesn't. II Tim. Scripture interprets scripture. To be continued. I'm going to bed now. As a Baptist friend frequently observes, the devil lives in the extremes. I'd be very careful about how I apply the term "literal," yet I'd be equally cautious about using Wikipedia to decide such an important issue. These are from Webster's, as quoted at Dictionary. An opinion held in opposition to the established or commonly received doctrine, and tending to promote a division or party, as in politics, literature, philosophy, etc.
Religious opinion opposed to the authorized doctrinal standards of any particular church, especially when tending to promote schism or separation; lack of orthodox or sound belief; rejection of, or erroneous belief in regard to, some fundamental religious doctrine or truth; heterodoxy. Law An offense against Christianity, consisting in a denial of some essential doctrine, which denial is publicly avowed, and obstinately maintained. Note: "When I call dueling, and similar aberrations of honor, a moral heresy, I refer to the force of the Greek?
The quote refers to the Greek root, which contains an element of choice. Those choosing not to believe that which has been passed down through the centuries as orthodox Christian doctrine do so for a reason, and that reason is usually to allow themselves the choice of deciding what is right to believe. The Bible is a "God breathed" work. It tells us the only way to heaven - Jesus Christ. I don't know where your listening at church went wrong Willy but you are wrong.
Or then again maybe it isn't your fault but the fault of the heretic in the pulpit that told you that God didn't write the Bible. There are warped views both liberal and conservative, and I can honestly say that from both a theological and a political perspective. See Jeremiah As for the authorship, the New Testament refers to Scripture as "God- breathed" rather than "God-penned. Again looking at the Greek, we see the term "pneo" which means to blow.
In other words, seeing "inspiration" as we customarily use the term as referring to an internal idea or direction, rather than an external, physical force, we believe that the men of the Bible wrote the words as God as they were given through the Holy Spirit, telling them what ideas, information, and messages to convey.
You'll note that obvious connection between the terms "Spirit" and "inspiration. The Latin Vulgate says "omnis scriptura divinitus inspirata". If he was a skilled communicator, he would also take into account the intended reader's ability to comprehend the message and likely reactions. A good example might be Peter's epistles. The language used in 1st Peter is substantially different from that in 2nd Peter, and some have used that to question the authenticity of one or the other.
However, 1st Peter clearly indicates that it was written by Silas or Silvanus as a sort of secretary to Peter, whereas the old fisherman wrote 2nd Peter personally, thus its' somewhat less refined Greek. I still intend to tackle the question of the obscure tribes who never hear, but time's still been at a premium.
I'll get there eventually. Incidentally, in Matthew and Luke the "build your house on the rock" statements , I can't find Jesus telling anyone to use a literal interpretation in applying His words to their life. He tells us we must obey, but to say that He means that literally is tantamount to cutting off one's right hand and gouging out one's eye. It is those who let the seed bounce off the path and be eaten by the birds who face the possibility of having no root in the storm.
SG Fan: Never have I ever said such a thing. Did I mistype or are you confusing another post that was perhaps mixed in my own? Trust me SG I intentionally used Wiki as it suited the point I was trying to make Even in using the term 'hard core literalist" it irritates some, but for the lack of a better definition, I use it.
AS an example, no one in their right mind could argue that God didn't write the Bible. We all know without any doubt that human beings actually penned the paper. Some theologians feel The Old Testament, particularly the first five books, were penned with more inspiration than the New Testament, which tends to be more a collection of historical events and letters which addressed specific churches and situations - but also serves as the NT guideline for Christian churches universally.
To me it doesn't matter, for all the Bible is about the most precious subject man will ever know God, His Son, the Sacred in general, and how we are to live our lives to please Him.
Hey folks.. I love all of you and I'm not a heretic Let's continue to exchange ideas and perhaps actually tear into the Word of God and deepen our own understanding. Blessings, Wes. Carol: Thanks for the response. By stating your position, you're in fact reaffirming your own beliefs, and that's always a good thing.
And I thank you for taking the time. I agree with you, the Bible is a sacred book - there is none other like it in the world, and never shall be.
If you read my post again, never at any point did I say it was lacking spiritual inspiration. Was the Bible divinely inspired? Well, let me answer like this. No man, or men, or system known to man, could have ever assimilated such an incredible masterpiece over a couple thousand years that flows almost perfectly, with very little conflict if any, depending on who you ask Was it an angel? Am I forgetting scripture or a part of history that indicated God himself was on this earth and made a declaration?
We're again gagging on a little bug here, but missing the entire point of everything I said. Listen to me please But there are Biblical stories and metaphors that are subject to broad interpretation, NOT literal. I just wish Christianity and churches in America could quit disagreeing over such little non issues, and collectively come together on what matters Here it is - please explain where you got this balogna from. Yes, the Bible is the Word of God I said it was "the most Sacred" Dan, "MT And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
I believe Him in this verse. Think about it. Is it more profitable to go through this life with a having both arms, or eyes and be cast into hell after this short, temporary and uncertain life. Christ was using a comparison.
He was making a point. I take all that literally. What He said makes perfect sense to me, especially when I think about the "Rich Man" found in Lk 16 beginning at verse 19 that lifted up his eyes in torment all those years ago it STILL there tonight. I take Christ literally.
Consider what He said, and you'll see that there is no comparison to being physically whole and eternally condemned. Earlier I understood you to say that we should accept Joel Hemphill for what he believes.
Also, what you believe the Bible to be still confuses me. You seem to be saying two things. If that's not the case, and you believe it to be the literal Word of God, from Genesis to Revelations, then accept my apologies.
Your posts just confuse me. Thanks so much, and we would LOVE to do just that. LOL Wes Willy. How far this way do you come? That would be about miles from my door to yours LOL We hope to put together a road trip next year and who knows We could make one gigantic swoop from east to west!!!! We are not a full time group, and at this point that isn't our direction or intention, but we will let the Lord's will be done - everyone would be most anxious to be full time if it were somehow possible, but we all work full time at present and spend most of our weekends either practicing or in ministry of some sort.
Thankfully I can afford it, and there's nothing in this world I'd rather be doing. So your small church and crowd size wouldn't matter to us in the least.
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